Worth noting about elders

•May 9, 2008 • Leave a Comment

Two things worth noting that might be helpful to know as you have read the stuff about elders.

1.  As the lead pastor, I am one of the elders.  You probably caught that from my references to “we”.  Right now there are seven of us and we come from all walks of life…School Psychologist, Construction Project Manager, Owner/Instructor of local dance studios, Semi-Retired Veterinarian, Appliance Salesman/Installer, Installation Manager for banking/security equipment.  We select additional elders as needed — usually every 2 years or so with a process that includes the whole church — as some step away or take a sabbatical after serving for the 3 year commitment.

2.  Suncrest never pays for our retreats.  Though it would be easily justified that our church budget would support an elder retreat, our elders choose to pay our own way for flights, meals, etc on these treats just to insure that we avoid any negative perceptions.

 

What elders are not…

•May 7, 2008 • 3 Comments

Sometimes the best thing you can do in defining who you are is to define who you are not.  It gives you a framework to function within.  With that in mind, on our retreat our elders spent some time looking at what our role is at Suncrest…and some of what it isn’t.  Here’s the list (again, this is always in process).

1.  We are not the complaint department.  We don’t get this a lot, but it does happen from time to time.  Maybe it’s because some people have been in unhealthy churches, but it always surprises us when someone thinks the elders (or an elder) are the first place they think of to express a complaint about the church.  If it is a complaint with our mission or our values, then that makes sense.  If it is anything else, since we are giving attention to “process” (previous post), there are other avenues to explore before the elders will even listen to a complaint.  Those always begin with the person immediately responsible for the area someone is struggling with.

2.  We are not the staff/Lead Pastor.  Healthy attention to our proper roles help Suncrest stay healthy.  We arent’ trying to create silos and collaboration does exist between staff and elders, but ultimately there is a spirit of unity because we don’t step on each others toes.  Suncrest is…elder guided – staff led.  The staff are best prepared (by experience/education/time) to strategize and lead in the direction set by the elders. 

3.  We are not the Business Management Team.  I love this about our elders…we never talk about detailed money issues, facilities issues, etc.  We have a team that serves Suncrest by making sure all of those bases are covered in a healthy way.  That is their expertise.  Again, process is important.  Our elders set the priorities for our ministry so we know what needs to be funded, but it is up to the BMT to figure out how to do it or communicate the potential trade-offs. I sat in our BMT meeting a few months ago and told the team I was thankful for them because it meant all the things on their agenda did not need to be on the elders agenda!

4.  We are not the communion delivery team, after-service counseling team, communion mediation team, etc.  I thought this was an interesting one, so follow the development of this.  Like many churches, when there is a need that seems to have a decidedly pastoral or spiritual tone to it, we might look to our elders to step up and lead/develop those areas.  Our elders have been great to do this! 

Unfortunately, after leading the development of these initiatives, sometimes churches make an unconscious shift to thinking those things are “elder jobs”.    We thought it was good to clarify that these are not elder jobs and that often elders are working to reproduce others to serve in these areas.  Two important distinctions: (1) You do not have to be an elder to do these things. And… (2) Not all elders need to do these things (instead it may often be based on personal giftedness).  As these develop, while elders may choose to serve on teams like these, they will only do so because of their gifts/passion…not because “that’s what elders do”.

5.  We do not have individual authority as elders.  This is slightly different than the previous ones in the list in that it is not a category, but a principle.  It is super-important.  Biblically and at Suncrest, elders are accountable to God for the health of the church they oversee.  Since they are accountable for that, they also have a great deal of authority/responsibility.  But we believe it is helpful to clarify that such “authority” is only as group. 

None of us has that authority individually.  On elder-issues, we speak as a group or we don’t speak at all.  Sometimes it is even necessary for us to clarify that in conversation where various church issues might come up.  We’ll say something like, “I’ll give you my perspective, but don’t take this as a declaration from the elders.”  It also helps in volunteer roles.  For example if one of the elders is a student ministry volunteer, in that role he is under the responsibility/authority of our student pastor and the volunteer (elder or not) should follow his lead. 

That’s about it for posts on our elders retreat.  Until next year…

 

What do Suncrest elders do?

•May 7, 2008 • Leave a Comment

This follows up on the previous post about “what elders do”.  After we landed on some big picture stuff (Guard and Guide; Doctrine, Direction, Discipline), we wanted to make sure we talked about where the elders could embody “excellence” as elders.  2008 is a year where we are emphasizing excellence at all levels of our ministry.

I think any time you are in a position of authority/responsibility (I think those two words should be essentially the same thing), there could be the temptation to be “the excellence police” — to sit on our perch and point out where excellence isn’t happening.  But great leaders always hold themselves to the highest of standards first.

So, here are some areas where we thought it was right for us elders to make sure we are excellent!

1.  Attention to Process (not just perspective)…Suncrest is a place that is open to almost any conversation.  If you have a different perspective on something, we welcome talking about it, learning what there is to be learned, maybe even disagreeing about it in a respectful way.  This could be about anything — a biblical issue, the way we program our worship service, our vision for planting churches, etc.  So, I think we are healthy in that way.

In my opinion, the big difference between healthy churches and unhealthy ones are HOW those different perspectives or disagreements are PROCESSED.  For example, if someone has a complaint about a staff member, I won’t even listen to it unless they have already addressed it personally with the staff member.  It’s the right and respectful way to process that.  And our elders are committed to handling issues that come up in the same way — with attention to both the issue at hand…and attention to the right way to handle the issue at hand.

2.  Help Staff (and key volunteers) lead…Our elders constantly guard themselves against micromanaging me or our staff.  And they do a great job at that.  Additionally, we talk about how we can help someone win.  Might be praying for someone.  Might be encouraging them.  Might mean supporting them or resourcing them.

3.  Responsiveness…The amount of time that passes and level of engagement with a request or issue are powerful tools that set a tone for how we elder.  If the church or the staff ever get the sense they are “blown off” by the elders or the elders were inattentive to their issue, it undermines credibility…fast.  We will be proactive.

4. Care for Suncrest as a whole while not missing care for people one by one.  Elders are shepherds.  And in a church our size that can mean two entirely different things.  First, our elders shepherd Suncrest as a whole.  We guard and guide the church and specifically make sure processes are in place (like community groups) to shepherd every person who will take reasonable steps to connect with our church.

At the same time, our elders should shepherd people one-by-one.  It’s not as if we divide up the church so each person has “their elder” to care for them, but elders live with their antenna up to people and their needs.  And anytime they come across someone they can encourage, care for, pray with, etc. we should have a bent toward acting on those opportunities.

5.  Embody/Model the mission and values of Suncrest…Our elders lead by example first.  At  Suncrest, that means our elders lives need to reflect what we say is important.  No one will be perfect in this, but we should all be strong and growing. 

Key Questions:  (Mission) Am I putting myself in positions where God can use me to change lives?  If living out the 4C’s (cultivate, connect, contribute, care) is our picture of spiritual maturity, are they reflected in my life?  What other key values are there or what newly emphasized values (such as reproducing leadership) do I need to embody if I expect Suncrest to shift this direction as a whole? 

 

What do elders do?

•May 4, 2008 • 1 Comment

Love that picture above.  It was awarded the “It’s not my job” award a few years ago for photos.

One of the things our elders work on every year on our retreat is defining our role.  This year we revisited some of the concepts that have always been foundation…added some definition to that…and added a new category that may sound negative at first, but we have found extremely helpful.  It could be the called (in the best spirit) “it’s not our job”.

Here’s where we landed:

1.  We have always said the primary function fo our elders is to GUARD and GUIDE Suncrest.  Guarding is about protecting, keeping our church as pure as possible.  Guiding is about listening to God, seeing Jesus as head of the church and responding to His leadership in setting the course for Suncrest.

2.  Some of this is still developmental (we see it as always in process), but this year, we put some categories to that.  We asked the question, “In what areas do we need to make sure elders guard and guide?”  A lot of this we’ve learned from other churches, but here were the major places:

  • Doctrine — to guard us from unbiblical teaching and to help us define what are “essentials” and what are not.  The old slogan “In essentials unity, in non-essentials liberty, in all things love.” has been an incredible guide for us along the way.  I think Suncrest reflects this phrase more honestly than any church I have ever seen.

 

  • Direction — This is a big picture issue for Suncrest.  Elders measure how we are doing against our mission and set the VALUES for our ministry.  Again, positively, they do not micro-manage.  Most anything at a STRATEGY level or TACTICAL level is left to the staff.  There may be some exceptions to that on high-level leadership development, but we know one of the keys to success is letting leaders lead.  We are “elder guided, staff led”.  As an example at Suncrest, our elders developed and landed on our 4C’s of following Christ (Cultivate, Connect, Contribute, Care).  Our staff is responsible for creating and leading ministries to help develop those 4 C’s in people’s lives.

 

  • Discipline — No one likes to think about about this.  Churches are of God, but they are made up of imperfect people.  Imperfect people sometimes actually become openly unrepentant in their rebellion or become undermining and divisive within this Body of Christ.  Whenever those issues begin to put the unity of the church at risk, our elders address it with a healthy, but direct process.  Our elders have only had a few occasions over the years where the issues rose to this level, but they were ready when those came.  It’s hard…and the long-term goal is always redemptive…but the health of our church too important to let divisive people keep us from our mission.

 

More in the next post…

Elder Retreat

•May 4, 2008 • Leave a Comment

Highlights from a great day on our elder retreat.

1.  We decided to come to Restoration House in New Hampshire for our retreat to get a first-hand appreciation of our church planting efforts in New England.  It’s been cool to see how God has worked in this Region through Restoration House Ministries.

2.  We prayed together for about an hour tonight for our staff.  We asked the staff before we left how the elders could pray for them and got some great responses.  It was powerful.

3.  We had lunch with 2 key leaders from Rockingham Christian Church and did some mentoring for them as they walk into having their first elders.  We prayed over them after a great conversation.

4.  Talked about the next evolution of a leadership development effort to supplement our model of reproducing leaders.  If you are a growing church, leaders are ALWAYS in short supply.  We want to creat systems that meet this critical need.

5.  Most helpful discussion for me…an ongoing shaping/discussion of what the role of elder is at Suncrest. On one hand, we know there are some Biblical fundamentals that will never change.  On the other hand, we know some leadership functions have to change as we grow.  Picture above is from some stuff we charted out on the whiteboard.  Next post will have some of that stuff if you are interested.

Elders Retreat…at Fenway

•May 3, 2008 • Leave a Comment

 

I’ll have some good stuff to share about our elders retreat in future posts, but this was a fun part.  One of our elders had a ticket connection for Fenway so we ended up with 8 incredible seats for tonight’s game.  There was a 2 1/2 hour rain delay, but it was fun.  And, the 6 of us got to include 2 great guys from new england:

Chris Snyder was my youth ministry intern years ago and then was our director of student ministries.  He now has a leadership position at Rockingham Christian Church — one of our church plants in Salem, New Hampshire.

Tim Hawkins leads Sojourn Collegiate Ministry in Boston.  Sojournand our Church plant, Reunion Christian Church, share some resources and work together in some powerful ways.  Tim is one of those guys I could talk to all day about ministry and life.

Breakfast is served…

•May 2, 2008 • 1 Comment

Got a cool opportunity this morning. 

One of our High Schoolers at Suncrest who I have known for probably 10 years invited me her “Foods” class at Crown Point High School for breakfast.  I was actually tempted to turn down the invite at first because this week is so full, but then she told me the occasion was to invite one person to breakfast who has influenced her life in a significant way.  Not turning that down!

It was especially cool because I had 3 other students in the class say, “You are the pastor at Suncrest, aren’t you?”  That happens way more often than it used too.  The other day someone sent a picture to our children’s director of me coaching Jack’s soccer team last week.  Suncrest is everywhere…

Exponential Conference Resources

•April 30, 2008 • 1 Comment

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We sent some our East Campus launch staff to the Exponential Conference last week.  I could feel the buzz from Orlando all the way up here in Chicago.

Doug Gamble gave us an update in staff meeting yesterday and I’m trying to figure out how we can send a leadership group next year.  It was inspiring to hear Doug describe the energy from a movement that is growing (and growing exponentially!) to launch new churches and new campuses of existing churches.

Suncrest actually hosted this conference 4 years ago and had a few hundred people here.  This year…2800!

One of the things I’m most proud of from guys/leaders in my generation is that it seems there is a real spirit of sharing as many resources as possible with one another for as cheaply as possible.  Much of it is even open-sourced for free.  People could get rich off selling this stuff if they wanted to, but they don’t.  They want to share what they are learning and developing with as many people as possible so all churches and leaders will benefit.

In addition to being free, these leaders teach both formally in leading conference sessions, but are also willing to be informal and candid behind the scenes.  The authenticity is powerful.  Below is a link from Dave Ferguson’s blog with some of that FREE video.

Click here for links to some really candid interviews with leaders in the church planting world.

 

People who make Suncrest go

•April 30, 2008 • Leave a Comment

We had an awesome all-staff lunch yesterday.  Like everyone else, we have an “office pool” with the NCAA tourney.  For us, we celebrate by going out together and buying the winner’s lunch.  Truth is…it’s just a good excuse to get the whole staff team together and enjoy an hour or 2.

I couldn’t get everyone in the picture.  You may know some of the familiar faces around Suncrest, but it’s this whole team that makes us go!  Most of these 22 people are employed “part-time” — but that has a lot more to do with their paycheck than their commitment!!

Office Support Staff— Melissa Gut, Laurie Olson, Clara Clark, Robin McHugh, Denise Tribble, Cindy Barker (quite possibly the greatest admin assistant to ever live!).

Custodial Staff— Diane Budzowski, Leslie Doan

Ministry Interns— Chris Hall, Scott Cumberledge

Ministry Staff— Doug Gamble, Mary Beth Stockdale, Bobby Jackson, Jared Mehrle, Mike Moseng, Scott Coons, Patti Richardson, Sue Hertzfeldt, Julie Coons, David Vineyard, Kevin Richardson (and me).

By the way, once again this year I did not win the pool.  Scott Coons actually won, but since he wins everything we awarded the free lunch to Denise Tribble who almost beat him!

 

 

Quick Trip

•April 29, 2008 • Leave a Comment

Thanks to a full 64 ounces of iced coffee, I stayed awake long enough to drive to my home town after preaching 3 times Sunday.  Dad’s been struggling health-wise a bit since his first chemo treatment last week and this was my one chance to get away until June. 

I got to spend about an hour with him Sunday night and a little more time this morning before driving back.  Also got to see my niece and nephews, brother, sis-in-law, mom and grandmother so the trip was totally worth it, even if I was there for less than 18 hours.  Just wish gas was $1.49/gallon.

One cool thing…Jack had a ton of stuff going on today so he couldn’t come, but I did bring Abby.  She and I had a great time and Jack and Jenny got some good time togehter.  When I called back Sunday night, they were playing Connect 4.  I love it.